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Pick Me, Pick Me!’ Insurance Insiders Tell How They Hire Lawyers: Insight into a Claims Handler’s Mind

October 31, 2017

Melissa Lessell

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To thrive at a large legal malpractice defense firm, lawyers need to do more than simply be good advocates—they need to develop their own books of business. And that means developing good relationships with insurance claims adjusters.

To wrap up the series, The panel at the ABA Fall 2017 National Legal Malpractice Conference comprised of Scott Barabash, vice president of professional liability claims at Aspen Insurance, Matt Borrillo, senior claims attorney for the Oregon State Bar Professional Liability Fund, and rain-maker defense attorney, Meredith Kaplan Stoma, a partner at Morgan Melhuish Abrutyn share what they are looking for from panel counsel.

Insight into a Claims Handler’s Mind

Barabash and Borrillo also provided insight into what exactly they are looking for from counsel when handling a case, since ‘‘doing a good job, in the right way, will pay dividends.’’

Accuracy and promptness were two key factors for Borrillo, who said that when something happens in his case, he wants to know. By accuracy, Borrillo said he means that a lawyer knows what she is talking about, not necessarily that she believes they are going to win. He also likes counsel to be straightforward—it’s ok to say ‘‘I don’t know’’ if there is not sufficient information developed in a case yet.

Borrillo said he needs attorneys to be accurate an prompt in their reporting, so that he can analyze the risk associated with the case at any given point. Insurance companies seek to manage risk. His work gets rolled up into a general forecast on the risk, which then gets passed on to the reinsurers, the board of directors, and the board of governors. He told the panel to err on the side of over-reporting and to avoid having the carrier ask for an update.

Barabash further echoed the importance of reporting promptly when situations change, explaining that ‘‘[we] expect bad news, we just don’t like to get bad news on the eve of trial when the information has been out there for a while.’’ Barabash further explained that he does not mind when a lawyer changes his mind in terms of an evaluation of the file, as long as it is based on something substantive.

Barabash and Borrillo disagreed as to how they wanted their individual cases to be evaluated. Barabash likes his lawyers to provide him with percentages and estimates for verdict and settlement value, but acknowledged that the numbers given to him by a lawyer aren’t definitive, since he does his own analysis. Borrillo, on the other hand, stated that he does not like it when lawyers provide percentages of success or decision tree analyses and is fine with generalities. The differences in opinion between these two insurance professionals highlighted one theme from the panel: the need for lawyers to really get to know the carriers with whom they work in order to learn and know their respective preferences.

Stoma said that from her perspective, it is important to make the adjuster’s workload easier. Always provide timely updates and follow up a report with a call.

Barabash added that the adjuster is a lawyer’s connection to the company. The lawyer should strive to make the adjuster look good, should never throw them under the bus and avoid going over the adjuster’s head except in the most extreme of circumstances.

Stoma said it’s important, in the insurance defense context, to manage the tri-partite relationship. She stressed that it is important to know when to step aside and focus on the defense of the case and let the carrier and client work out any coverage issues among themselves.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Accuracy
  2. Promptness
  3. Make adjuster look good and workload easier
  4. Manage Tri-partite relationship

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    No Mercy for Employers in Louisiana Supreme Court’s Recent Magill Decision

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